Inside This Issue
Free yourself from the
Slavery of Jealousy!
Date: Saturday June 18
Time: 11am to
4pm
Alternative Dating
Etiquette
Date: Saturday July 17
Time: 11 am to 4 pm
2011 LTD Annual Camping
Trip at Lake Cachuma
Friday August 5 through Sunday August 7
Family Synergy 40th
Reunion
Date: September 9 - 11
Live the Dream June 2011 to August 2011
Unless otherwise noted, all events are at 8515 Penfield Ave. in Winnetka zip 91306. This is a group house - home of Terry, Greg, Carl and Will.
For all events: RSVP / more info call the LTD Hotline (818) 886-0069, ex. 3.
Live the Dream is an education and support group for those who, originally inspired by the writings of Robert Heinlein, Robert Rimmer and Marion Zimmer Bradley, are now ready to LIVE such alternative lifestyles as cooperative living, open relationships and group marriage. Many of our concepts on multiply committed relationships come from Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land and Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Live the Dream also sponsors a Nest of Church of All Worlds, the real life, over fifty year old spiritual movement inspired by Stranger in a Strange Land.
For info on family synergy events see: www.familysynergy.org
Note: Terry Brussel is
a Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist and a a 4th generation matchmaker. We
provide poly relationship counseling, hypnotic jealousy release and other
services. See www.acesuccess.com
or call (800) LIFE MATES (543-3628)
PLEASE NOTE: All 3rd Saturday Live
the Dream meetings are also Family Synergy connection parties from 11am-2pm
Also, Family Synergy members pay member price at Live the Dream meetings &
parties
EVENTS
Saturday June 18 11am to 4pm: Free Yourself from the Slavery of Jealousy!
Discussion, exercises, and guided meditation for vanquishing YOUR green eyed monster
Terry Brussel PhD, CCht and Rachel Hope lead this exploration of Jealousy vs. Compersion. Shall we let it run our lives or master it for our greater joy? The choice is ours to make in each relationship, each new day in our lives. Bring finger foods for Tribal Feast pot luck lunch. We will be feeding each other. Jacuzzi available for soaking and socializing 2 pm to 4 pm - we'll put a canopy over it for shade. Bring sandals and a towel.
Monday June 20 at 9 pm at the Karl Hess club. Dinner at 8 pm Dinah's in Culver City.
Terry Brussel and Greg Barnes present on Liberty and Lifestyle.
The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein (sometimes referred to as the Libertarian Manifesto) contains a political philosophy of freedom along with ways to create freer, less orthodox relationships. From triads to multi- generational group marriages Heinlein shows us how to raise children with greater security and abundance than is possible in most 2 person marriages as well as how to provide the greatest JOY for adults in such relationships. All his books from Time Enough for Love through the final To Sail Beyond the Sunset have this relationship theme as an integral part of the story. Heinlein's biography shows he knew whereof he spoke politically and with regard to lifestyle. This month's program will explore these themes and offer an explanation as to how they can be applied on a practical basis.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS: Terry is a Libertarian who has been educating her community regarding multiply committed relationships for nearly 40 years--all her adult life. Greg is her handfasted partner. Terry has addressed the club on several occasions in the past and has contributed many resources and opportunities for involvement to our group. This meeting is our anniversary meeting; please come on down to help us celebrate while enjoying an interesting and informative program
Saturday July 17 11 am to 4 pm Alternative Dating Etiquette
What do you do when your wife brings her lover home for dinner? Who sleeps where if he offers (or is invited) to stay over night? If your wife is sick on a night you've got a date, should you cancel and stay home with her? Should your girl friend keep you company if you do stay home? Is dating together or separately best for your primary relationship? Which is safer? More joyous? How is New Relationship Energy best handled for the joy and security of all involved? Emily Post did not cover this stuff, but we will!
UPCOMING:
Friday August 5 to Sunday August 7 LTD Annual Camping Trip at Lake Cachuma.
This will be kid friendly as well as fun for adults. Bring your own food for Friday dinner (7 pm) and Saturday breakfast (9 am). Lunch Saturday is pot luck - bring your own sandwiches and drinks plus sides to share - same kind as you are bringing for Saturday dinner.
Saturday dinner LTD provides baked chicken, beverages and paper goods. The rest is pot luck. A-H salad and raw veggies I-N Fruits and cheeses O- S Breads, chips, spreads and dips T-Z Desserts Join us for a boat trip around the lake Saturday morning. Marshmallow roast (Saturday night after a walk around Lake Cachuma), and a trip to Solvang for smorgasbord (each pays his own way for that - under $20 per person).
Early bird rates until July 5--$30 per person, kids $15 each. After July 5-$40 per person, kids $20.
Send check made out to Success Center -- 8515 Penfield Ave. Winnetka, Ca. 91306.
RSVP: 818.886.0069 ext.3
FAMILY SYNERGY 40TH ANNIVERSARY IS THIS YEAR
CELEBRATION PLANNED September 9 through 11
Family Synergy was founded in 1971 by Hy
Levy and Pat LaFollette. Its founders were inspired by the works of Robert
Rimmer (The Harrad
Experiment, Proposition 31 and many others).
Live the Dream began as special interest group of Family Synergy devoted to a more Science Fiction oriented slant on alternative lifestyles. LTD became a separate group in 1987, then began doing more joint activities again in 2005. We remain closely connected in philosophy and activities. Live the Dream members (and all interested polyamorists) are invited to attend this 40th anniversary celebration.
For more info call LTD hotline or go to www.familysynergy.org.
Alternative Dating Etiquette
By Terry Brussel-Gibbons
The purpose of poly dating may be to establish a relationship between two couples, for a single lady or single man to form a relationship with a couple, or even for a triad (morad?) to form a relationship with a couple or a single. Perhaps they are attempting to form a triad or larger group marriage, create long term secondary relationships, or just to grow closer with those someones already in your friendship group. The point of all this "etiquette" is to make the dating experience joyous and safe for all concerned. The ways to accomplish this for all involved is different in each situation.
If you are a couple meeting another couple, dinner at one of your homes is generally best. As a couple, inviting single male to your home a first meeting over dinner is appropriate. If you are a couple meeting a single lady, the best way we've found to handle it is to court her together. Take her out and treat her nicely--let her know that dating a couple doesn't mean giving up the joys of romantic single dating, but doubles them instead! The husband is taking both of the ladies out--he should pick up the check without a fuss. The single lady can reciprocate later with dinner at her place if things work out. If the single is male and you go out together, he and the husband should split the check--you are both taking her out. None of this on who pays applies to feminist ladies who wouldn't think of allowing a man to buy her dinner--but we've run into amazingly few of those in this movement.
Three in the Car
If you all go out together as three, the wife and single lady should alternate sitting in the front seat if your car has bucket seats. In the case of a couple dating a single man, the gentleman whose car is being driven will usually drive with the lady beside him. Three in front is much better if you have a vehicle which can do it.
Three at a Restaurant
If you are going to a restaurant, plan things so that round booth seating (preferable) or individual chairs avoid the couple sitting on one side and the single on the other. Whether that single is male or female, avoid anything with a two against one feel to it.
Couples Together and Apart
Be sure you not only do the obvious of sitting in cars or restaurants with the opposite sex member of the other couple, but spend time with the same sex one, too. This goes for separate meetings, too. The gentlemen can go to a computer fair together while the ladies go for a drive or whatever. You are all in a relationship together if this works out.
Separate Dating--couple with a Single
Depending on the couple's comfort level with it, after getting to know them both on two or three joint meetings, you as a single male could offer to take the lady alone out for lunch, dinner or even a play. This works particularly well if her husband gets to go to some meeting or activity he is really interested in but she is not while you entertain her. You, as the male member of a couple, can also ask the single lady out, assuming this is ok with your wife--best to have your wife assure her that it is especially if your previous meetings have been as three.
Many in the poly life style are not comfortable with separate dating which includes being out over night. If this is the case with your spouse, don't push him or her beyond what is really ok with them. Hurting your primary partner or putting your primary relationship at risk is usually not worth it. Possibly your partner's attitude will change in the future as he or she becomes more comfortable with your secondary, but be careful of treating such a request as one which your partner "should" accept in time. If possible, sleepovers with all three of you together in the same bed are more inclusive, less threatening and can be a lot of fun.
If you feel it is important to see someone separately for an overnight though your primary partner has expressed discomfort , do your best to be sure your partner is otherwise occupied with someone special for that night -not a first time date. Talking all of this out with everyone involved is a good idea. That is one difference between clandestine affairs and polyamory-having it all out in the open means you do get to discuss it and not just get told "you lose".
What Do We Do When...
You are in a quadrad. You and your husband have a date with a couple you are in relationship with for an intimate evening. The other man in your triad comes in after a sweaty job for a shower. He takes the shower, comes out and gets eye contact with your husband's date (who he has had ample previous contact with) and joins them in bed. They have a lovely time, but when wife #2 gets back from her date with a another member of your household, she is angry at not to have been consulted about her exclusion from this date with the couple. This is discovered when the visiting couple go home and husband #2 attempts to come to bed. He finds his clothes etc tossed outside the door the bedroom of wife #2 with a Do Not Disturb sign on her door He sleeps with his other wife and husband while she sleeps alone.
Whether wife #2 (who has joined the triad after they had been together four years) has reason to be disturbed depends on several factors: How well does she know the visiting couple? Would they have been comfortable with her being added into the mix? Was she told previously that this would be a private date between the original couple and their guests? Would it have been reasonable for Husband #2 to have disturbed her during her date to ask if it was ok for him to join the other couples in bed? Is she comfortable being by herself upon occasion - or not? Some things are a bit spontaneous at the time and the only way to avoid upset is to discuss a lot of hypotheticals in advance realizing that you can't cover them all. Write down what you will do about the hypotheticals. When one comes up which has not been previously planned for , give your partner(s) the benefit of the doubt and discuss among you how this could best be handled in the future to create a win-win for all involved rather than getting upset that the situation wasn't properly handled this time.
The above situation could have occurred in a triad without the fourth partner. In this case, husband #2 was frequently not included in the couple's dates with other couples or singles for a number of reasons ranging from their comfort level with his extra weight to whether the dynamics of that particular situation made it best for him to be included at that time. He was not interested in being included when the single was male, for example. In other cases where he might have wanted to be included, he accepted that it just wasn't going to happen with this person or couple or on this occasion. All this was worked out long before the triad became a quad. Some of the standing rules probably needed to be renegotiated or at least clarified with a fourth person in the mix.
Much of what effects the above scenario comes down to whether separate dating is ok at all or if all must be included every time. I am not comfortable with an all or nothing rule. I feel it is too limiting , particularly when outside relationships predate those of the current marriage - group or otherwise. The monogamous majority accept all or nothng as the price of having committed relationships or a marriage. Polyamorists have more options...
Know Where You Stand
There are many ins and outs to the etiquette of poly dating. Much of it depends on the agreements a couple (triad or quad) has with each other before another person enters the picture. Contrary to popular beliefs, having an open relationship often does not mean "Anything goes." Some couples date only together, while others have a limit of one evening and/or night out a month or a week separately. Some require a week's warning about a whole night out while others just need a call that same night letting the spouse know they'll be out until morning . Couples (triads and quads), be sure you are clear on such agreements between yourselves and that you make them clear to prospective intimate friends before someone gets hurt feelings through not knowing the rules.
If you have a "What do you do when...?"
for publication here please send or E-Mail it to 8515 Penfield Ave. Winnetka, Ca. 91306. E-Mail address is success@pacbell.net. We will take it with your solution or brain storm and give it one or more of our own. Let's have fun with this and learn from each other.
Meet Up Events
First Saturday every month - 7 PM Deborah's Poly Meetup in Burbank / North Hollywood
Go to www.meetup.com/SoCal-Polyamory or call 310-717-5790 for more info
Shama, who gave the excellent presentation on Tantra for LTD's March 2011 meeting, is having poly meet ups monthly. Go to www.pleasureparadigm.org for more info
2011 WORLD POLYAMORY CONFERENCE July 29-31, 2011 Harbin Hot Springs www.worldpolyamoryassociation.org
Loving More Retreat September 9-11, 2011 Upstate New York www.lovemore.com
Do you have poly news that you wish to share?
E-Mail us at livethedream.org or call us at (818) 886-0069, ex. 3
Tell your Poly curious friends to look us up at livethedream.org
DIRECTIONS TO THE PENFIELD HOUSE
From the 118 going east, get off at De Soto Avenue, head South on De Soto to Parthenia, head East on Parthenia, head South on Winnetka, head East on Chase one block and head North on Penfield to 8515.
From the 118 going west, get off at Tampa Avenue, head South on Tampa to Parthenia, head West on Parthenia, head South on Winnetka, head East on Chase (one block), head North on Penfield.
From the 101, get off at Winnetka Avenue, head North on Winnetka Avenue to Chase (next signal North of Roscoe). Head East on Chase Street and go one block turn left on Penfield Avenue.
We are the big white house on the left hand side of the street; first house on Penfield north of Chase Street. Number 8515
For Google instructions, go to: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=8515+Penfield+Ave,+Winnetka,+CA+91306,+USA&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title
LTD DUES ARE $25.00 PER YEAR FOR ONE PERSON, $40 FOR A COUPLE, $10 EACH FOR ADDITIONAL PERSON(S) IN THE SAME HOUSE. DOUBLE THAT FOR FREE ATTENDANCE AT ALL REGULAR DAY TIME 3RD SATURDAY MEETINGS. TO BECOME A MEMBER OR TO RENEW YOU YOUR MEMBERSHIP, PLEASE COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING FORM AND EITHER E-MAIL OR SNAIL MAIL IT TO THE ADDRESS LISTED BELOW. An E-Mail NEWSLETTER SUBSCRIPTION ONLY IS AVAILABLE FOR FREE. JUST BE SURE TO PROVIDE US WITH YOUR E-Mail ADDRESS. REGULAR MEETINGS ARE $5.00 WITH YOUR CURRENTLY PAID MEMBERSHIP CARD (FAMILY SYNERGY OR LIVE THE DREAM] WITHOUT MEMBERSHIP MEETINGS ARE $8.00.
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Inside This Issue
Takes a Village to Raise a Child
Date: Saturday May 21
Time: 11 am to 4pm
Free yourself from the Slavery of Jealousy!
Date: Saturday June 18
Time: 11am to 4pm
Alternative Dating Etiquette
Date: Saturday July 17
Time: 11 am to 4 pm
2011 LTD Annual Camping Trip at Lake Cachuma
Friday August 5
through Sunday August 7
Unless otherwise noted, all events are at 8515 Penfield Ave. in Winnetka zip 91306.
This is a group house - home of Terry, Greg, Carl and Will.
For all events: RSVP / more info call the LTD Hotline (818) 886-0069, ex. 3.
Please visit the Live the Dream website at www.livethedream.org
FOR INFO ON FAMILY SYNERGY EVENTS SEE: WWW.FAMILYSYNERGY.ORG
TO SEE PAST EVENTS OR ARTICLES ON Live the Dream PLEASE VISIT: WWW.LIVETHEDREAM.ORG.
Live the Dream is an education and support group for those who, originally inspired by the writings of Robert Heinlein, Robert Rimmer and Marion Zimmer Bradley, are now ready to LIVE such alternative lifestyles as cooperative living, open relationships and group marriage. Many of our concepts on multiply committed relationships come from Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land and Moon is a Harsh Mistress. Live the Dream also sponsors a Nest of Church of All Worlds, the real life, over fifty year old spiritual movement inspired by Stranger in a Strange Land.
Note: Terry Brussel is a Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist and a a 4th generation matchmaker. We provide poly relationship counseling, hypnotic jealousy release and other services. See www.acesuccess.com or call (800) LIFE MATES (543-3628)
PLEASE NOTE: All 3rd Saturday Live the Dream meetings are also Family Synergy connection parties from 11am-2pm
Also, Family Synergy members pay member price at Live the Dream meetings & parties
EVENTS
May 21 11 am to 4 pm: It Takes a Village to Raise a Child - from Co-ops to Expanded Families in the Poly and Pagan Communities. Lead by Lena and Eric Hauselman.
Many of us got involved with this lifestyle as much for the benefits available to our children as for the delights of connecting with multiple lovers. Children with many parents and chosen family members are never orphaned - emotionally or in terms of roof over their heads. They also have plenty of role models to learn from. Bring your kids-teens and reasoning younger ones are welcome in the discussion. We will go to Lake Balboa for a picnic in the afternoon around 1 pm. Bring your own sandwiches and a delicious side to share. LTD provides beverages, paper plates, etc.
Saturday June 18 11am to 4pm: Free Yourself from the Slavery of Jealousy!
Discussion, exercises, and guided meditation for vanquishing YOUR green eyed monster Terry Brussel PhD, CCht and Rachel Hope lead this exploration of Jealousy vs. Compersion. Shall we let it run our lives or master it for our greater joy? The choice is ours to make in each relationship, each new day in our lives... Bring finger foods for Tribal Feast pot luck lunch. We will be feeding each other. Jacuzzi available for soaking and socializing 2 pm to 4 pm - we'll put a canopy over it for shade. Bring sandals and a towel.
UPCOMING:
Saturday July 17 11 am to 4 pm Alternative Dating Etiquette
To be followed by science fiction folk singing (filk) in the evening.
UPCOMING:
Friday August 5 to Sunday August 7 LTD Annual Camping Trip at Lake Cachuma.
This will be kid friendly as well as fun for adults. Bring your own food for Friday dinner (7 pm) and Saturday breakfast (9 am). Lunch Saturday is pot luck - bring your own sandwiches and drinks plus sides to share - same kind as you are bringing for Saturday dinner.
Saturday dinner LTD provides baked chicken, beverages and paper goods. The rest is pot luck. A-H salad and raw veggies I-N Fruits and cheeses O- S Breads, chips, spreads and dips T-Z Deserts Join us for a boat trip around the Lake Saturday morning marshmallow roast (Saturday night after a walk around Lake Cachuma), and a trip to Solvang for Sunday Brunch. RSVP: 818.886.0069 ext.3
The following articles by Terry Brussel were the basis for 3 workshops presented at
Heinlein's Centennial Celebration in Kansas City in 2006
We in alternative lifestyles used to be referred to in science fiction circles (even among those who were specifically Heinlein fans) as Heinlein's "bastard children".
The designation always hurt and angered me. It implied that the poly philosophy contained
in his books was not meant to be taken seriously, but was "just fiction".
When the first novel he wrote (For Us the Living written 1938 and finally published in 2003) its pro open relationship philosophy made it clear he really did believe in that life style from the start. His biography which came out in 2010 showed he not only believed in, but LIVED our life style for much of his life.
We are bastards no more.
The room was packed for all three of our Alternative Lifestyles
Family workshops at that Centennial!
Chosen Family: How Heinlein's Sci-Fi Stories Have Affected Structures in Real Families
The juveniles in Heinlein's stories mirrored that of the traditional, loving, family unit. In one juvenile, Podkayne of Mars, Heinlein made mention of an arrangement where the children would be grown in a test tube and frozen until Mom and Dad were ready to raise them. Heinlein gave most of the juveniles a family structure similar to those of today, some could say better than most. Line Marriage, Multi Generational Group Marriage of Oberon Zell, and the triads also described in The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, or Tertius colony Family similar. The water sharing ceremony in Stranger in a Strange Land is the best example of Family by choice and has affected families in reality probably morethan any other of his books. Church of All Worlds and many other less formal groups, including my own intimate friendship network, have used this as a model for permanent committed relationships which may shift from lovers to friendship and back again multiple times during an ongoing relationship. Members of a Nest may live together or be "semi residential". They may live nowhere near each other, but maintain their bonds through phone calls and visits (weekly, monthly, or perhaps a few times a year). The patterns are endless. The common denominator is long term lovingcommitment.
Think about: Which of Heinlein's writings affected the choices you have made regarding family andrelationship structure?
Families in Heinlein
In Rolling Stone, Heinlein gives us a trade family with Grandma Hazel helping with the children. Heinlein making the character of Grandma Hazel's daughter-in-law a doctor was a little unusual at thetime it was written, but Heinlein's novels have many strong, very bright women in them.
The juveniles always included kids, young ones on up to late teens, as fully developed characters. Tunnel in the Sky had teens as its main characters. Have Space Suit, Will Travel and Podkayne of Mars have pre teens. Almost all of his alternate lifestyles books included them, too, either as complete characters (Dora in Time Enough for Love, Hazel in Moon Is a Harsh Mistress); less developed but definitely present characters such as the children of Dora and Lazarus in Time Enough, and Woody's brothers and sisters both in Time Enough and To Sail Beyond the Sunset. Even when children are mentioned, rather than present, they are a strong motivator for the behavior of the adults. Heinlein is very clear that the preservation of relationships and assets as well as the good upbringing and protection of children are the major purposes of all marriages. He is also shows children as People and that they have the capability and Right to make their own decisions, when they have been taught to do so properly, most notably in Door into Summer and Tunnel in the Sky. Lazarus (and Heinlein's own parents) believed in appropriate discipline balanced by plenty of physical affection.
Howard family marriages were mostly serial monogamous or (more likely according to To Sail Beyond the Sunset) open committed relationships with others being added secretly at first. (Maureen had to dye her hair and become a supposed mother-in-law so her husband could be the father of the child he gave his daughter-in-law.), then more openly as such things became more acceptable in outer society and as the Howards migrated off planet. They always included children by definition since the whole idea of those marriages was a breeding scheme for long life. Lazarus's one marriage to a non Howard (Dora) takes place on such a planet. The frontier society they founded was certainly not monogamous and did include plenty of children. Secundus and Tertius had Howards as the majority. By the time we get to Number of the Beast, we have a constantly growing group marriage on Tertiius which includes most of Heinlein's major characters and plenty of children with the commitment of all adults in the marriage being to the welfare of those children until they reach adulthood. Lazarus Long, Jubal Harshaw, Hazel (once more), Lazarus' cloned sisters, his mother Maureen and even such computers (pre and post transformation to humans) as Minerva, Mike and Athene are members of this family. The Cat Who Walked through Walls and To Sail Beyond the Sunset depict characters who travel frequently through time, may have formal and informal romantic liaisons in other times/ parallel time lines, but who generally return to the group marriage they are part of --frequently with the new partner in tow.
I Now Pronounce You: Wedding ceremonies abound in Heinlein's stories: Tunnel in the Sky has several monogamous type marriage ceremonies in its off planet impromptu colony. Those are fairly traditional. I Will Fear No Evil gives us one old man in a young woman's body marrying another still in his own body. They have a traditional ceremony as a lead in to one of Heinlein's few examples of an open relationship where the participant mostly pretend to monogamy. Door Into Summer gives us a traditional ceremony and what we have no reason to think is anything but a monogamous marriage. While the marrying characters start off as child and adult, they are definitely legal by the time they tie the knot. Moon Is a Harsh Mistress adds Wyoh to Mannie's Line marriage, Friday marries into her S group with great contractual formality, Lazarus marries Dora on horseback and gets her pregnant immediately afterward. Lazarus' Tertius colony family adds Maureen in a formal ceremony. All of these ceremonies, including Stranger's water sharing, are ways of making a commitment to another person or persons for the safe and responsible raising of children and the joy of the adults who raise those children. Only the S group, in Heinlein's novel Friday, is presented in a really negative light, though by the end of that book our main character is completely enmeshed in a very positive group marriage. Heinlein clearly approves of marriage in any form which assures safe and effective rearing of children, preservation of assets, and plenty of loving for all involved. He does not expect marriage to be eliminated in future society. To the degree that it is set aside, he believes that society to be a sick one. He expected marriage to evolve rather than disappear.
Think about: Did any of you structure a marriage ceremony and/or the marriage itself on Heinlein's writings?
Please feel free to send your "Think About's" questions on the poly lifestyle and articles you
have written on the subject - we'd love to share them in our newsletter.
LiveTheDreamPoly@gmail.com.
Meet Up Events
First Saturday every month - 7 PM Deborah's Poly Meetup in Burbank/ North Hollywood
Go to www.meetup.com/SoCal-Polyamory or call 310-717-5790 for more info
Shama, who gave the excellent presentation on Tantra for LTD's March 2011 meeting, is having poly meet ups
monthly. Go to www.pleasureparadigm.org for more info
2011 WORLD POLYAMORY CONFERENCE July 29-31, 2011
Harbin Hot Springs
www.worldpolyamoryassociation.org
Loving More Retreat September 9-11, 2011
Upstate New York
www.lovemore.com
Do you have poly news that you wish to share?
E-Mail us at livethedream.org or call us at (818) 886-0069, ex. 3
Tell your Poly curious friends to look us up at livethedream.org
DIRECTIONS TO THE PENFIELD HOUSE
From the 118 going east, get off at De Soto Avenue, head South on De Soto to Parthenia, head East on Parthenia, head South on Winnetka, head East on Chase one block and head North on Penfield to 8515.
From the 118 going west, get off at Tampa Avenue, head South on Tampa to Parthenia, head West on Parthenia, head South on Winnetka, head East on Chase (one block), head North on Penfield.
From the 101, get off at Winnetka Avenue, head North on Winnetka Avenue to Chase (next signal North of Roscoe). Head East on Chase Street and go one block turn left on Penfield Avenue.
We are the big white house on the left hand side of the street; first house on Penfield north of Chase Street. Number 8515
For Google instructions, go to:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=8515+Penfield+Ave,+Winnetka,+CA+91306,+USA&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title
ALL VISITORS PLEASE PARK IN THE STREET, NOT IN THE DRIVE WAY. THANK YOU
LTD DUES ARE $25.00 PER YEAR FOR ONE PERSON, $40 FOR A COUPLE, $10 EACH FOR ADDITIONAL PERSON(S) IN THE SAME HOUSE. DOUBLE THAT FOR FREE ATTENDENCE AT ALL REGULAR DAY TIME 3RD SATURDAY MEETINGS. TO BECOME A MEMBER OR TO RENEW YOU YOUR MEMBERSHIP, PLEASE COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING FORM AND EITHER E-MAIL OR SNAIL MAIL IT TO THE ADDRESS LISTED BELOW. An E-Mail NEWSLETTER SUBSCRIPTION ONLY IS AVAILABLE FOR FREE. JUST BE SURE TO PROVIDE US WITH YOUR E-Mail ADDRESS. REGULAR MEETINGS ARE $5.00 WITH YOUR CURRENTLY PAID MEMBERSHIP CARD (FAMILY SYNERGY OR LIVE THE DREAM] WITHOUT MEMBERSHIP MEETINGS ARE $8.00.
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Full LTD Membership Includes Newsletter & Membership Card |
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NO CHARGE |
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Make checks payable to Success Center Total: $ _________ | |||
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Membership Information Help Support the Lifestyle you live! | |||
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Name: ____________________________________ Age: _______________ | |||
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Address: _______________________________________ | |||
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City: _______________________________ State: _____ Zip: __________ | |||
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Phone: _______________________ E-Mail: ______________________ | |||
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? Single ? Married ? Attached ? Unattached Amount Enclosed $ ___________ | |||
Name(s) of Mate/Family to be included in this membership ifAPPLICABLE: ____________________________ | |||
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FAX OR Mail to: FAX#1-818-882-8512 - 8515 Penfield, Winnetka, CA 91306 | |||
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? I am willing to volunteer:? Time ? Meeting Space | |||
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? I could lead a meeting or activity, proposal enclosed | |||
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